Some people spend their whole lives affirming the fact that they shouldn’t get any more than what they have. They are told to be quiet and be grateful that they have more than their parents, and to forget their own aspirations. They believe what is essentially a lie, a spell to keep you complacent. But it doesn’t have to be this way! You can break the spell and get everything you’ve ever wanted. And to do that, I’ve invited an author who has broken the spell of unworthiness so many times and given herself the life she’s always dreamed of. 

Christine Gutierrez, MA, LMHC, is a Latina licensed psychotherapist, self-worth expert, and thought leader. Gutierrez is also the author of the book I Am Diosa: A Journey to Healing Deep, Loving Yourself, and Coming Back Home to Soul and the affirmation deck Wisdom Del Alma. Christine has a Bachelor’s degree from Fordham University in human behavior and development and a Master’s degree from City College of New York in mental health counseling with a focus on prevention and community. Through her work, Christine offers group coaching, corporate wellness, transformational retreats such as her annual Diosa Retreat in Puerto Rico, and soul-based business mentorship in her annual Madre Diosa Legacy Council. In addition, Christine is the founder of the forthcoming app DIOSA, a global community where like-hearted women gather to meet soul sisters, gather in circle, and rise together.  She has been featured on the Kelly Clarkson Show, Latina Magazine, Yahoo Health, Ebony, Cosmopolitan for Latinas, Oprah Magazine, Entertainment Online, Telemundo, and others. For more information, head to www.christineg.tv and follow her on Instagram, where she is most active: www.instagram.com/cosmicchristine 

In this week’s episode, we are breaking the spell of unworthiness that has been holding you back. With help from her brand new book, I Am Worthy, Christine Gutierrez talks about why unworthiness is a lie that you can stop believing in. So many of us have been walking around believing lies that were created to keep us quiet and small, when in reality, we have always had big dreams. Listen to Christine’s episode to learn how to break the unworthiness spell, reject the lie, and start embracing the spell of worthiness. You can have everything you’ve ever wanted, as long as you believe you are worthy of it. And the most amazing thing is – you already are. 

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Episode Transcript:

Erika: What if I told you that the biggest block to your success isn’t your resume, your relationship status, or your bank account? It’s the spell of unworthiness that you’ve been living under your entire life.

In today’s episode, we’re joined by the incredible Christine Gutierrez, who is a licensed therapist, a spiritual guide, and a bestselling author of the book. A lot of us may know I am Diosa, as well as her new book. I Am Worthy, and we’re breaking down How Unworthiness is not Your Fault. It’s a generational spell that’s been passed [00:02:00] down through Silence Sacrifice as well as survival, but.

You can break it. So if you’ve ever felt like you had to shrink to fit in Overperform to be loved or earned your way into rest. This episode is your permission slip to remember that you were born worthy. Christine shares how her Puerto Rican roots, her spiritual initiations and her own healing from addiction have led her to a life of liberation, of motherhood, divine love, and unapologetic abundance.

We also talk about what it means to download codes of worthiness as well as reclaim cultural confidence. why being d lulu is actually something that is divine, and how your desire is proof that you are ready for more. This isn’t your average self-help talk. This is a spiritual homecoming, and the conversation was so good.

So grab your cafecito, open your heart. Get ready to unearth the truth that’s been waiting for you all along because once such, Ana remembers her worth, [00:03:00] there is no going back. Let’s get into the episode. 

Christine, welcome to Chingona Revolution podcast. How are you? I am so alive and happy and grateful. I am so excited to speak to you. I feel like we have so many things to cover today, but you recently, or you’re about to release a book that I think is literally the core. Thing that people are looking to find in their lifetime, right?

Like whatever struggles they’re going through at the core, it has to do with feeling, wanting to feel worthy. Absolutely. And you described unworthiness as a spell, and it’s something that needs to be broken. So can you tell me when was the moment that you realized you’d been living under that spell? Or maybe people that you’ve worked with were living under that spell?

Christine: Yeah, I’m so excited about this book. Um, I Am Worthy Break the Spell of [00:04:00] Unworthiness, reclaim Your Divinity and Unearth Your True Power. It’s my next book, baby. After I am Diosa. And. For me, I, I remember people asking me like, what’s the core of your work? I’ve been doing this work now for over 17 years. my background is as a clinical licensed mental health therapist, and really what I consider myself more of is a spiritual mentor and a guide.

And when people would ask me, what’s the core of your work, it would always come back to helping people remember that they’re worthy and. Both in my own life as my journey, you know, growing up in Bushwick and, and Ridgewood in Queens in New York, and, and witnessing both love and abuse and having to untangle the webs of those generational wounds.

Mm-hmm. And having to reclaim the generational gifts and being able to, to really say, you know, despite this, I am worthy. And, and the first wound, right, is being disconnected from that spiritual place of, you know what? Whatever you wanna call, the more the, the, the [00:05:00] connection to God, spirit, source, uh, goddess, whatever you wanna call it.

That’s our first wound. When we disconnect, we forget that we are part of this infinite cosmic realm and that we are inherently worthy. And now. We have, you know, the understanding that, um, okay, well there’s a part of me that believes and knows that maybe there’s something more, most people that you know, follow my work are, are spiritual people and they’re people that already have the understanding that there’s more.

But even then, we live a mundane life. We go about our business, we go through shit every day. We have to hustle, we have to, you know, do the things and we forget and, and then our life then, and then now at your lifetime initiations that you have to go through. The moments when someone rejects you, when someone’s dating and they can’t find their person and they’re like, oh, he didn’t wanna text me back.

You know, all of these things are little moments where it makes. People or can make someone, if they have an original injury mm-hmm. That [00:06:00] reminds them of that rejection. Right. Dad left them and now someone is not responding to their text message. I feel unworthy and, and a lot of times what happens is people are collecting that evidence of like, unworthiness, right?

I’m unworthy of having a loving relationship. I’m unworthy of making money. I’m unworthy of living out my dreams. I’m unworthy of having a baby. I’m unworthy of living my authentic self. And a lot of it is, like I said, is a spell. I consider unworthiness, a spell of unworthiness that clouds us and that literally has us living a lie.

And every single chapter in the book, I have unworthy, uh, lies and worthiness truths so that you can look at the fucking lie in the face and be like, F you, I don’t believe you. And I’m gonna really look at you in the face and say, and question. Why do I think this? What are you trying to teach me? What is this about?

But I’m not gonna live from that place of the lie. I’m gonna live from the place of our [00:07:00] truth. And so this book and, and really the body of my work is devoted to, uh, helping us call back all the pieces of our soul that have left our bodies and have disconnected us from our core worthiness. 

Erika: Oh, that was so good.

And you’re so right with, you know, the person maybe not texting you back and it activates this core wound. And sometimes people don’t even recognize it at first, that there’s this unworthiness wound, but this is why maybe a rejection from a job or, um. Maybe somebody not greeting you the way that they greeted somebody else walking into the club or walking into a store.

These little things that aren’t a big deal can feel so massive. And it’s because it’s tied to this core wound that you’re, that you’re, um, speaking of. Absolutely. So I think what’s beautiful is that you’ve blended this like ancient wisdom. With your clinical work, right, with your clinical, um, psychology and within your work.

So I’m curious, how do your Puerto Rican roots kind of shape [00:08:00] this healing path for you? 

Christine: Yeah, you know, I, I’m new Eure and I consider myself nuyorican. I have nuyorican roots. My parents from both sides. My mom’s side, her mom was from San Sebastian. Her dad was from San Man from my dad’s side. His dad was from Isabella, and my grandma was from Las Maria.

And in 2011. I was experiencing some weird, like, health sensations in my hands and stuff. And um, I was just graduating from my master’s in mental health counseling and I heard a voice that said, you know, if you go to Puerto Rico and you go to the sunshine, it will go away. I was doing all these tests and all these things and nothing was showing up.

And in 2011 I came to Puerto Rico alone. Um, my parents had never lived here, so I’m third generation. My grandparents had lived here. We all grew up. In New York, my mom grew up in the projects in the Bronx. My dad grew up in the hood in Brooklyn, and I was like, I’m gonna go back my roots. really feeling the land calling me, and, feeling, the pull to return home to [00:09:00] the root.

And knowing that that was gonna be a deep part of my medicine, I then met with, This woman, uh, the 13 Indigenous grandmothers, grandmother, Flo de Mayo, and Grandma Flo de Mayo was doing this event at Donna Karen, and at the time I was volunteering there. Opening the door, super low key.

And I remember not knowing and noticing that grandmother, Flo de Mayo was one of the 13 indigenous grandmothers that was gonna do this big event there at Donna Karen’s place at Urban Zen. And I was like, oh my God, you’re so cute. You know, very typical, very me. Uh, and she was like, you’re so cute. And we started joking.

Didn’t know who the f she was. I didn’t notice her face. Later on, I see her doing like this water blessing in front of like, you know, hundreds and hundreds of people. I was like, oh my God, I just told the indigenous grandma that she’s so cute. And I didn’t know. She was like, you know, performing this thing.

She comes out of the event, I’m still holding the door open, and she comes up to me and she says, um, you’re gonna move soon and you’re gonna teach about Laa. [00:10:00] And she knew and um, wow. And I told her I’m already teaching about the Goddess Laa. At the time, I hadn’t fully integrated the word diosa, but I was starting to use it.

My first retreat over 15 years ago, the first one was called the Goddess Retreat, and then I owned and said, this is the YSA retreat. So this coming, if you’re listening to this in 2025, the next retreat in 2026 is the 15th annual Diosa retreat. So my roots and the coming home, both as a new Euan woman and that identity, which is very different than being BOA born and raised here, and my identity as a Latina woman and bar woman, all impact me.

In a very deep way because it’s one of the biggest lens that I use my culture. and I speak about this a lot and reclaiming my cultural confidence. we have so much medicine in our roots. Latina authors are less than 7% of the population. I’m part of that 7%, uh, especially mainstream, book deal with a six figure [00:11:00] book deal that is even lower, maybe 1%.

And it is. A big part when you see that you feel unworthy, because if you don’t see people representing you that sound like you, that look like you, you’re like, oh, well fuck it. I’m not worthy. I must not be worthy. My voice is not worthy. My medicine is not worthy. I’m not worthy of being paid. I’m not worthy of sharing my voice.

And so in me coming back here and really owning, wow, I’m so proud. To be me and part of me is this cultural piece I got to really sit with what are the, what is the medicine that I learned from my grandmother, analyzing my dreams, intuition, plants in the home, using them to heal us. community cafecito talking, having these deep conversations.

And so all of that, Influences and is a big part of the fuel of my work. And as you know, most of my work is geared towards Latina women and women of color. And so I, I work with all women, but I make a specific, [00:12:00] focus on creating and facilitating spaces that are geared towards Latina women, women of color, and women.

Erika: Beautiful. So when you said that. The grandmother said that you’re gonna teach about osa. I literally got chills all over my body as you said that. And what stood out to me about that is, you know, sometimes we go to events and we can be like really hesitant and or we only wanna talk to the people that we think have status.

But what I think is so beautiful about that, that. Synchronicity is that you had no idea who this person was and you were just genuinely being yourself. You were being as authentic as possible and it ended up being like this divine connection and this synchronicity. And that’s what happens when we live our lives in, in alignment.

And what a beautiful journey that, I mean, you were already on the journey, but it was like the confirmation that you were on the correct journey. Yeah, 

Christine: and you know, I remember walking in at the time. I remember going to [00:13:00] bookstores and searching through, and there was, there was nobody there that was like a Latina, mainstream spiritual author.

I, there was Sandra Guzman who had wrote the New Latinas Bible, but it wasn’t quite spiritual personal development. There was do Miguel Ruiz, but he was already an older man. Right. And then there was a Y La Van Z who I’ve had the pleasure of working with and studying with her in person. And of course, Dr.

Clarissa Cola sds. Who is and has Mexican roots, but was raised and adopted by Hungarian parents, but she was again, already in her sixties at the time. So there was no new voice for the Latina generation. And I, I remember walking in, I remember getting Gabrielle Bernstein’s book and crossing out in the book and I put like a working title in her book and I put by Christine Gutierrez and I was like, I will have a six figure book deal and I will have my books.

In Barnes and Nobles and I will impact thousands and hundreds of thousands of women around the world, and they will know that they can too, not just because of the impact of the work in [00:14:00] the book, but also for me as a template and as an example and, and since then I’ve helped so many other Latina women get six figure book deals because there are codes that we don’t have as Latina women from not having witnessed that in our community.

I saw people become doctors, maybe de lato, but mostly were teachers, bus drivers, office assistants. Um, my grandmother worked cleaning houses and factories. So for me to get those codes really enhance my worthiness and I was very clear. I was like, I’m gonna watch these white girls move. And I will download those codes and I will bring it to my people.

You’re so worried. ’cause we’re worthy of them. We are worthy of them. And we have the medicine and we have, and oh my God. This is, so, I, I have a high level, Madere Legacy Council, which is my high level feminine business mastermind for, you know, game changers women that wanna do big things in the world and make a lot of money.[00:15:00] 

And I remember one time looking at the reels of all these white women and they were putting the most gangster ass music that they didn’t even grow up with, which is totally fine. Music is for all of us. Okay? I’m not mad at it, but what I noticed was that we weren’t. That we weren’t, and I said, wait a minute.

This is because the colonized belief, and especially for those, which many of my clients are first generation, they have immigrant parents. They’re needing to be cookie cutter, change their name, change their accent to assimilate into a culture to be accepted, therefore, losing their cultural confidence and feeling worthy in their own skin and their own bones as who they are.

And here they are not feeling comfortable using their accent, not feeling comfortable, having their sason, not feeling comfortable to put music that we grew up with on reels to not seem not professional. And I remember that moment where even music, I was like, I’m worthy of reclaiming the music that I like.

I’m worthy of not just hiding that part of me and not sharing it. I’m worthy [00:16:00] of being all the multi-dimensional aspects of myself and putting that online and sharing it with people, but most importantly, claiming that within ourselves, and again, in this book and I am worthy, it unpacks so many different levels, not just of like.

The inner trauma that you might’ve experienced on a family level, but the systemic traumas that we see by living in a colonized, racist, you know, world. And to not live angry at that because I’m not about that life. I’m about how can we be a bridge to learn what we need to learn and have it ’cause we can do it too.

But also recognizing that, that that’s real. You know, and so it, it was so beautiful. I remember one of the, one of the girls in the Madre Legacy Council, she ended up putting like a big punk song and she ended up enrolling like two clients from it and love it. We were so happy. ’cause it’s like all these tiny moments that are moments of you being like, I am worthy of reclaiming all the parts of me.

Erika: Definitely, I had these questions I wanted to make sure I asked you, but you said [00:17:00] something, you said a few things that I want to touch on. So you said you went to Barnes and Noble, you grabbed a Gabby Bernstein book, put your name on it. So that is. I mean for the person who maybe isn’t in touch with, with manifestation or spirituality for that, for them, that sounds crazy, right?

Like, oh, why don’t, why can’t you just be realistic? Why is it important for us to do things like this and not be realistic and to use what the young kids are using nowadays? Why is it so important to be D Lulu? 

Christine: Yeah, we live in a material world, but we also live in a spiritual world, and this is a choice to believe that if you don’t like it, then you know.

Tell yourself something that makes you feel inspired to do something. There’s many ways to do this, in my opinion. And what works for me is that I believe that we, we are ruled more by the subconscious and the spiritual world more than anything. And um, the more we allow ourselves to believe that we are.

Matter and more energy, the more we can [00:18:00] expand our consciousness to go beyond the rules of physics and law. Because energy, defies time and space, right? Right. We know this time is not linear, and so when we do on a subconscious level, what we are doing is we are creating more possibility. When you think about, the power of a good teacher that reminds you that there is more for you to dream.

That there is more for you to believe in. That gives you self-esteem, that gives you self worth, and it allows you the ability to imagine. Imagination is one of our most powerful tools that we can use to move beyond what we’re currently experiencing. Use the power of visualization, the power of your word.

Even in the Bible, in the beginning, there was word. Word is a spell. Words are spells. They’re magic wands that live on your tongue, so you have to use them wisely. And for me, I knew, I knew from a young age that we had this power, and I knew that I [00:19:00] wanted more than anything to have that book. I loved writing poems.

I loved writing, and I loved Gabby’s book. She was actually one of the first people that showed me that you could be like this young cool girl, make money, write a book, and I ended up. You know, I mean, you know, she just promoted my book. I Am Worthy the Other Day. And you know, I give thanks that, you know, even though we come from very different backgrounds, she was still like this Scorpio woman kind of rough around the edges similar to me.

You know, an addict like me recovered, right. Like a sober woman. Mm-hmm. And so there were a lot of pieces of her story that I could identify. And there were pieces that I didn’t, and then the pieces that they didn’t, instead of complaining about it, I like bitched about it. And then I did something about it.

And I think that for me, writing that was like the moment where I told my soul I’m gonna do this. And I didn’t just dream it. Then I said, what am I gonna do to become it? I kept on pouring myself into my art, pouring myself into my work. And that’s part of this too, is like you [00:20:00] get to write down. In every area, and there’s so many exercises in, in this book, I am Worthy, that are gonna show you what is my worthy self desire?

What does she move? Like what does she sound like? What does she dress like? Who does she allow to be in her body? Who does she allow to be in her space? It really activates these queen codes, these diosa codes, these worthy women or worthy person. ’cause this book is for everyone. Activating those codes in our body allow us to be like, oh, I’m worthy of that.

And so we must be delusional. We must be crazy dreamers, we must be wild. We must not think that our current reality is where we exist. If it was the case, I wouldn’t make the money that I make. I would not have the love that I have. I would not have the daughter that I have. I would not have everything that I have because every.

Next level requires you to be even more delusional, even more outside of reality. And sometimes, like in my case, I, I had a beautiful partnership and I had an amazing daughter. And I realized, I was like, you [00:21:00] know what? this is great, this version of reality, and there’s another version of reality that wants even more.

And then sometimes you can feel bad because maybe you have a good job or you have a good partner or you have a good thing, but there’s a part of your worthy woman’s soul self that knows you deserve more. Maybe you’re making a certain amount of money and you’re like, you feel guilty and shame for desiring more.

But if your soul is telling you and is coming from the right, in the right relationship with your heart and not from this place of ego and control or power and negative stuff, then that’s because God planted that in your soul to have it. And I’ve seen it right my life and all the, the lives of my clients are proof.

The more that we stand, like in the seat of our soul, crowning ourselves with our worthiness, the more everything in our life changes you magnetize everything you want you do, and the things that you don’t. Because life is life and life be life, you know, to look at it and say, this has nothing to do with me.

And you become, uh, the, in solving things [00:22:00] in a way that is so deeply in line with your spirit. That everything turns out for the better. And so this work is for me, lifesaving. Um, I think that if more of us wake up out of the spell, and I typically speak to the women ’cause that’s my main demographic, but everyone that’s listening to this, the more we wake up out of that spell, the more you love yourself and the more you can’t imagine not having the best of the best in every area of your life.

Erika: As a woman of color, we’re often taught that the only path to success is through hard work. And that’s exactly what I did for seven years when I worked in the tech industry. When something wasn’t working, I worked tar, and then I burned out. I pushed and I hustled. But when I started my business, I tried something different.

Yes, I still put in the work, but this time opportunities were coming to me. I was magnetic. While I didn’t know it at the time because I didn’t have a name for [00:23:00] it, I now know that I was using the magnetic method, which is a blend of neuroscience backed manifestation and aligned business strategy that helps you become a magnet for opportunities.

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I love that. That was so well said. I had to grab my journal to write it down because you said. I’m gonna bitch about it, then do something about it. And I love that because it means your feelings are valid. Yes, life can feel unfair, but what do you wanna do then? And I think sometimes our community can stay in the like, oh, this is unfair, but then don’t do anything about it.

And it’s like, well, now you’re just gonna stay in the same place. Or if we look at the way that law of attraction works, right? You’re just creating more of what you’re focusing on. And if you’re [00:25:00] just, if you stay focused on what’s not working and what’s not. Fair. Instead of deciding to change it, then you are just gonna keep creating more of the same.

And you also, uh, talked a few times about codes. I know what you mean about codes, but, and my, my, podcast is, I feel like my listeners are pretty spiritual, at least beginner, intermediate level. But can you explain what you mean by code? Yeah, 

Christine: I believe that there are energetic codes that we get and it’s kind of, you can think of it like an imprint of something that you need to learn.

So for example, when you go to school and you are, you know, you’re learning about, um, I don’t know about psychology, right? And you are. In class and your teacher’s explaining, okay, well, today we’re gonna learn about how to be a good therapist, and they’re breaking down all the ways that you could be a good therapist.

You’re downloading the code from this person who’s already a therapist. This imprinting of what does it look like and feel like to be a good therapist. It’s like [00:26:00] a model of a person that already embodies that thing that you want right now. When I went to school and I saw therapists that were fantastic, I was around their energy and I was around their teachings, and I was able to say, oh, I want those codes.

I want that imprinting. I wanna know how to be a good therapist like that. So let me learn from you. Let me figure out that, and being in that frequency. Allows you to learn. Right? And we know now that um, on a scientific level, we co harmonize and we regulate with others. So if we are breathing and we are, you know, calm in our bodies, or if we are excited or if we are sad, someone else in the room can feel that frequency.

And those frequencies impact our energetic field. That’s why it’s so important to be mindful of our energy and to also be mindful of who we have around us. Me as a mama of a beautiful 4-year-old girl and a stepmom of a 3-year-old, I am so mindful of my energy. [00:27:00] I’m always being mindful of my energy. My daughter has never heard screaming.

She doesn’t know what that is. Like. She grow, she’s, she’s just grown up with love. Tension. Yeah. Maybe ’cause it’s life feelings. Of course. And I show her, I model how to. Be frustrated and how to have feelings, but yelling and all of that stuff that I grew up with, she doesn’t grow up with. So what does that happen?

She downloads the codes of a well-rested woman. You know, my daughter told me something of the day, she just turned four. She’s very smart though. And she said, mama, you know when I’m bigger, I don’t wanna work a lot like you. I want one day work one day, no work one day work one day, no work. And I love it.

I’m modeling rest. Yeah. And she said to me, mama, you don’t work a lot like the other mamas do. I like that ’cause you get to play with me a lot. She is understanding the codes of a well-rested woman. Of a woman that’s lit up by her desire. She sees me teaching my [00:28:00] daughter leads meditations. And again, that’s what it means to have these codes.

And so for me, when I talk about this code of worthiness, it’s like reminding ourselves, it’s like that queen energy. It’s that goddess energy, right? And. There are layers to this and there are so many different things that you’re peeling back. So you must be gentle and go at your own pace because how you treat yourself in this journey matters so much.

We are all people. We have stickier areas in our conditioning that we have to unlearn. And it’s taken me a really long time to keep upgrading. And some people learn really fast in their twenties. I was not like that. I was still a wreck, drinking, partying, fucking the wrong people. It really took me longer.

And I don’t want anyone listening to this to judge themselves for where they’re at. You are where you are. You did the best you could to be where you are. And now, if you’re listening to this, I invite you to expand beyond your reality. And really claim a life beyond your wildest dreams and understand that if you are [00:29:00] reading this work and you implement the work, it does work.

And um, it is something so beautiful to be able to know that in your life you have done the work to be who you really are and to have a life that reflects that on the outside as well. Um, and, you know, just witnessing. Myself and my journey and, and then being able to pass on those tools and those codes or that frequency, or whatever the fuck you wanna call it to all my clients, and then seeing them be able to be like, oh, now I deserve to do it.

It’s like we light the torch for other people. We light them up 

Erika: with that confidence. And what’s so interesting is to your point about like, I think the, the, the statement of, oh, I should just be grateful. Yes, we should always be grateful, but sometimes that keeps us small and there’s almost this like fear of success or fear of getting too far ahead.

Oh yeah. But to your point, when we are allow ourselves to become the most successful version of [00:30:00] ourselves, we get to light the torch for the people that come behind us. Right. It’s never real. Like we’re all so much more connected than, than we realize. It’s never about just you getting ahead, especially if you’re a woman of color.

Right? That’s right. We, it, it research shows that we pay it forward. We keep helping people. That’s it. We give back to the community more than any other group. So this idea of keeping yourself small is actually also keeping your community small. Absolutely. So this work, and I wanna say 

Christine: something to that really quick.

What you said is so big, like the fear of success and now living in Puerto Rico because in New York, yeah. Maybe in my immediate community at first in Bushwick, I, I witnessed that like, you know. But I was surrounded by by, by an energy of success and an energy of like, go-getter like that. That’s the energy in New York City overall.

Right? So you had access to some of that In Puerto Rico, especially in the community that I am in the spiritual community, there is a lot of judgment around success and especially around making money, doing spiritual work. And I’ve been judged, [00:31:00] I’ve been critiqued. I’ve had people that are like, uh, you know, whatever.

And I’m like. Um, my mom grew up in the projects. My dad grew up in the hood, and my parents hustled their asses off to get there. Not that I need to prove to anyone. And also my grandmother, cleaning bathrooms and taking care of people’s homes and working in factories. I’m good. I, I want ease. I want rest. I want abundance.

I want wealth. If that makes you uncomfortable. Bless your heart. I understand why. Because people have come to Puerto Rico, have colonized, have taken, have stolen lands. There’s reasons in which people feel this way, and also you want to live off the grid. How the fuck you gonna buy that land?

No, you have to pay for it with money, bro. That’s what you have to do. Yeah. So unfortunately the currency that we still use is money. And when you have children that need to eat healthy food and go to a good school and [00:32:00] all of that stuff, abundance is what sets you free. For me, what I’ve noticed is that, and I’ve had this beautiful opportunity, so many people that get triggered then come to me and they’re like, oh my God, I’m so inspired.

I love you. I wanna do this. Because in the end, we know that we want, we just want the best. And we always give back. And we give back even when we don’t have, and it’s still so hard. ’cause even when you make a lot of money, then you have a lot more expenses. Totally. So now running a business is not free. No.

Right. Running a business is not free. No, because now when I tell people, you know, like my energetic minimum is 50 to a hundred K, that is what feels right for me, and I cannot, because I am literally negative like still in my business years later, paying for so many venues and all these things. That’s really real.

And I don’t have a rich uncle or aunt or parents to like help fund me. I fund it. I don’t have investors for this ’cause I don’t want them. And so this is part of also really understanding, first of all, success means being in alignment with your [00:33:00] soul. Anybody. That is in alignment with their soul is successful.

Success will look very different for everyone. No one can compare or have external yardsticks for what success looks like. My success happens to include freedom with my daughter. You know, having a romantic partnership that like sets me on fire. I’ve always wanted that. Like for me, number one was always mom, family, like I, that like to me, I, I, I, I said I’ll give it all up for those two things I want love.

And I want my baby and the rest is a bonus. And then my doing my work in the world, serving my impact right now, having money then became part of that because I realized that it set me free in so many ways. But that’s not everyone’s dharma or their mission. Now, many of you who listening to you are, are women that do want that.

I know that. And, and it’s okay to want that. I want everyone, especially if you’re a Latina woman, woman of color, to really claim. That we do [00:34:00] really good things and there are other people that are taking up the space and there are, there’s, we’re still at the lowest for, uh, with indigenous people, for how we get paid.

And we really need to change that. We really need to change that. And I think that the world is gonna be, um, much more free and in many deep political levels and ways to. When we have more women of color that are in their mature feminine, in power, definitely. Yeah. Um, we care about things and we have a deeper relationship to pain in a way that other people don’t, and I trust us deeply.

Yeah. 

Erika: Yeah. And you know, even, you know, you talked about the spiritual community, kind of like, um, having thoughts about about success, but if you read the Bible, if you read a spiritual book, it’s clearly says like. Source doesn’t want us to suffer. No. And to your point, like money is just the, the energy exchange that that’s it.

Like [00:35:00] we still use Yeah. Whether it’s digital money or physical money, but it’s really like if we think back to before we had physical money, they would use produce or fish and like that was still in exchange Absolutely. Of energy for services. And if you do believe in a higher power, which I think everybody who listens to this podcast believes in something, right?

Whether it’s Mother Earth or Source or the universe, or God, whatever word it is that they want to use, that wants to give us everything, but it’s just about are we willing to receive it? Which is why I think your book is so important, right? Yes. Like how. Do we feel worthy enough to receive it? And a lot of times that itself is the block.

Which leads me to my next question ’cause I know we’re getting towards the end. We both serve a community of women, mostly women of color, mostly Latinas. Yes. And there has been, um, maybe an unhelpful code that we have inherited, which is that we need to work really hard in order to be successful and to be worthy.

Yeah. And almost like we need to perform. [00:36:00] Absolutely. According to you and the truth that I also know, it’s that we are inherently worthy. Absolutely. So what would you say to the woman of color to the Latina who feels like, oh, I need to do X, Y, and Z, and then I’m worthy of love, I need to lose weight, and then I can find my partner.

I need to go get another certification, and then I can ask for the raise I need to do X, Y, and Z and then I can do this other thing. Yeah. First, um, 

Christine: I know that that. It is a remembering, right? Like this work is remembering, like remembering, remembering I am worthy, I was born worthy. You know, if you wanna use, um, more, um, biblical language, like, you know, God crowns me.

Right. Like I’m, I’m a, I’m the daughter of the most high. I am crowns and I have jewels that already chose me from birth. Right. Um, if you wanna use language, just like I am part of the great mother, the great she, [00:37:00] right, um, women that hold the, the energy of, of birthing, whether you choose to birth children or not, you hold that in your womb and we’re the closest to creation that it gets when you understand that, um.

You must sit in that and you must meditate in that energy first, and you must really dwell there for a bit and really sit in that field of like, I’m part of something bigger. Then you start doing the work, and this book literally guides you from start to finish in every single area. Fun, pleasure, abundance, rest.

It really breaks it down and gives you charts and all the things, uh, soul purpose, community love. So you’re gonna be able to have this homework to really dive into. What have I downloaded? The beliefs that are untrue and how can I start to do this work to really peel back to what I know I deserve? Right?

And then once you start to do the work that you, you start realizing it is not something external that gives you it. Once [00:38:00] you claim it for yourself, then you can say whether you want something or not. So one good example is, you know, a lot of times people will be like, and, and I really. I don’t like this, uh, theory of like the law of attraction and like, it’s like simplistic terms.

I like really like detailed nuance with this ’cause I think it needs it. You don’t just attract who you are. The light attracts everything. The light attracts the moths. When you are a powerful lightworker, you will attract really broken, wounded people looking to steal your light because they are dark.

They are in pain and people that are lightworkers, which many of us are, come with a lot of lights and a lot of magnetism, and the sick and the wounded, and the everyone’s gonna come want the lights. Everyone wants the light. And that’s a beautiful thing. However, without boundaries, without knowing, and with bad spiritual self-help jargon that you don’t really understand, you’ll be like, oh no, I must have done something to [00:39:00] attract the same, you know?

No, sometimes it’s just that you need to realize, oh. I don’t want this. But in order to do that, you must know. You don’t just attract who you are, you attract everything. And also, are you solid enough in your worthiness to say, Hmm, this doesn’t smell good. You know, I always tell people to activate the senses of like the smell and the taste, and it’s like, does this person taste healthy?

Does this person smell? Like someone that is honoring my intuition. Does this, you know, opportunity does this thing, does it vibrate with my most worthy self? And in the book I give you prompts and meditations for you to really visualize what does your worthy woman feel like look like? Walk like, talk, like who does she allow?

Who does she play with? Who does she have friends with? And that being in that state helps you then to say yes and [00:40:00] no. It helps you to be very clear, oh, this isn’t about me. You know, oh, this is what I want. And you go through life really, really in an empowered way and people feel it, you know, and people, people, they get it.

And it’s a very loving and also fierce energy. And your boundaries are so intact. And, uh, a woman that is full of worth has healthy boundaries that are fluid, but also closed when she needs them to be. And, um. Um, it’s powerful. So I, I know that if you do this work and you give yourself the opportunity, that you will slowly start realizing how much more worthy you are than maybe you’ve given yourself credit for and for everyone.

There’s still a part of us that can use tweak. You know, for me in success, I noticed that because I have, right? Like, you know, I, I wrote, I Am Diosa. I wrote, I Am Worthy. I got a Wisdom Alma deck. I have a [00:41:00] beautiful daughter. I live in this gorgeous apartment and all these things, and on the inside I feel happy.

The biggest freedom is that I, I, I walk the talk, I feel happy. My life is amazing, right? But also I’ve gone through a lot of shit to get there. And also there are still parts of me that I think, well, my life is so good. How dare I want more? There’s still that Latina voice in me that says I’ll be a sellout if I get too much.

You know, I see these white women online and I see them posting about all their money and all these things, and I get shy and I’m like, I wanna do that sometimes. But then I get shy. ’cause my culture has taught me to be more shy and more, and so all these things that I’m also breaking free from. So giving ourselves permission to be raw.

Yeah. To change our identity. Um, yeah. It it’s such beautiful work. I’m so excited for everyone. Um, so, so excited. 

Erika: Yeah, so tell us, that was beautiful. Tell us where people can get your book. 

Christine: You can buy my book wherever books are [00:42:00] sold on Amazon Bars and Nobles Target. Um, you can go to my website, Christine g tv slash im worthy book, and you get some beautiful, uh, free.

And on my Instagram, you can, you know, stay in touch with me. That’s where I’m most active. Cosmic Christine. And again, my book is I Am Worthy. Break the Spell of Unworthiness. Reclaim Your Divinity and Unearth Your 

Erika: True Power. Beautiful. Well, we will link all of that down below your social channels, where to get your book as well as your website.

And for those of you listening, there were so many gems dropped in this episode. So take a screenshot of listening to this podcast tag Christine and myself, because we wanna know what your biggest. Takeaway was, make sure you go follow her and make sure you get your hands on this incredible book.

Christine, thank you so much for coming on the podcast and sharing your wisdom with us and dropping codes for the listeners, to be able to adopt. And this book sounds like you, you’re really doing your life’s work. So [00:43:00] congratulations. Congratulations on being a part of that 7%. 

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