Chingona Revolution is hosted by Erika Cruz, a rebel who left a 6-figure tech job to pursue her own unconventional path to success by following her passion that led to her purpose. Every week, Erika will bring out of you that BADASS LATINA through her experiences to overcome self-doubt and family expectations and lead with COURAGE.
Many of us were not taught how to set healthy boundaries. In fact, we were told that setting boundaries made you a mean and coldhearted person. But that can’t be further from the truth! Believe it or not, setting boundaries is an act of love, and this week’s guest will teach us how to set boundaries without losing our relationships.
Liz Torres is a Boundary Coach and Breathwork Facilitator focusing on helping first-generation empath Latinas set healthy boundaries. Growing up, Liz was the “family manager” and a chronic people pleaser. AKA she had a really hard time saying “NO”. After leaving an abusive relationship, she embarked on her healing journey diving into therapy and spirituality. Recognizing her empath nature, she understood the significance of boundaries and how they could have supported her growing up. Since then, Liz’s goal has been to help others protect their energy by helping them set healthy boundaries- particularly focusing on the eldest daughters of immigrant parents. During her free time, Liz loves spending time with her hubby and their fur-baby Mamba. She recently rediscovered her love for reading so for all book lovers- feel free to send Liz your book recommendations! If you would like to work with Liz, you can find her on IG @wellnessbyliz or email her at hola@wellnessbyliz.com.
In this week’s episode, Liz teaches us how to set and maintain healthy boundaries with our loved ones. She was not taught how to have healthy boundaries, and because of this, she ended up in an abusive relationship that she didn’t know how to leave. But by setting boundaries and keeping them, she was able to leave that relationship and improve every relationship around her. Tune in to hear more about boundary setting and how it can improve your relationships!
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Erika: Liz, welcome to the podcast. How are you? I’m good. How are you? I am great. I am so excited about our conversation today because I know that we’ve been working together for a while and you’ve gone through A rollercoaster of events. And I’ve been able to just kind of be on the sidelines and watch you go through life when life is lifing and turn this idea of being a boundary coach into reality.
And there’s just been so much, so much growth that I’ve seen in you. So for the people who don’t know you, can you tell us who you are and what you do, even though I already gave some of it away?
Liz: Yes. So my name is Liz and I am a boundary coach and a breath work facilitator.
Erika: I love that combination of boundaries and breath work.
And let’s just dive into that. Like what, what does it mean to like have boundaries and what got you interested in Doing boundary coaching.
Liz: So I think boundaries have been a hot topic, right? I think for me, boundaries is basically communicating in a healthy way. We’re not putting walls up. We’re not ghosting people.
We’re not, um, you know, just leaving people on red. It’s a form. Of communication where you’re telling the person where you’re at and where they can meet you. Um, of course, if it’s a very, very abusive or toxic relationship, that’s a whole different story. And I totally respect that, that I feel like boundaries help improve relationships.
And I actually got into it because of my own healing journey. Several years ago, after leaving an abusive relationship, I did do a lot of therapy. I did a lot of, um, natural healing methods and I kind of discovered that if I would have grown up with healthy boundaries or known what they were, I don’t think I would have been in that abusive relationship for as long as I would have.
So when I was reflecting, I realized how much I needed to set healthy boundaries in my life and that’s kind of what started my whole journey with boundaries.
Erika: I love that. You said something key there where if I had boundaries growing up, I wouldn’t have stayed as long as I did. And just like how I think The educational system should be teaching us personal finance and financial literacy.
I also think boundaries and communication is something that needs to be taught. But tell us a little bit about what you’ve seen in our community. Like both of us are Latinas. So. What have you seen as far as boundary setting in our community? Because in my opinion, it’s just non existent, right? You just either ghost people, you sweep it under the rug, you never talk about things.
So tell me in your experience after having coached 10 people, as well as your own experience and your own lived experience, what is that like in our culture?
Liz: I think In the Latino Hispanic culture, it’s very embedded into us from an early age, especially for women and girls to be polite, do as you’re told, help around the house, um, you know, say yes.
Like we are not really told not to say no. And I think as kids, um, you know, you’re told Hey, go say, go hug your tío or your tía, even though you don’t, let’s say you don’t even know them, go say hi and give them a hug. So, ve abrazo, and at such an early age, like, we’re taught, no, you need to be polite, you need to do this, you can’t say no, even if you don’t even know the person and right away you have to hug them, it’s like, um, okay, that’s, Like looking back at that now, it, there’s just so much, even with our parents, um, for example, they, uh, The one is to pay bills.
If you grew up as the eldest daughter of an immigrant family, you know, this very much as you basically take on the role as a family manager, right? So, so even just within that, I feel like there’s so many lack of boundaries there. You have to help translate us at an early age. You, um, help pay the bills.
You help with your siblings, you help with so much. So. It’s always an expectation that we’re going to say yes to all of this, which again, it’s fine. If you want to help, right? We all want to be helpful in our families, but there’s when, once someone says no, it’s like, what, like, did they really say no? So we don’t really grow up learning how to set healthy boundaries or maybe we don’t even have to say no.
We can say, you know what, mom, I’m super busy right now. Can we schedule it for this date? They’re not, they’ll, they’ll probably be taken aback. I mean, my mom was the first time I said that.
Erika: Yeah, no, I hear you. I’ve had an experience with, with my mom where she’s like, ayúdame con esto, right? And it’s like, everything’s urgent for her, but I will be in the middle of editing a brand deal.
That’s like thousands of dollars on the line. It’s due soon. And it’s just like very, you know, high pressure. And she’s like, you know, coming in with her bill and she’s like, take care of this for me. And I remember the first time that I was like, I can’t help right now. She took it so personally. She’s like, I’ll call your brother then.
And it just totally took it personally. And now I feel like the. It’s a dynamic we have is very different because now I’ve been able to set boundaries and communicate a little bit clearer. And now she understands what I do for work. But before when I had just moved back and she saw me in the room, she’s like, you can help me.
And they can’t actually comprehend that. So I totally relate to all of that. Tell me a little, I mean, we could literally talk about boundaries in our community for like the whole podcast interview because there’s so much there, but tell me how breath work helped your healing journey and Why you became a breathwork facilitator.
Liz: So when I was in my healing journey, I started doing a lot of meditations and back then I was not diagnosed with OCD, which I am now, but I’ve noticed that a lot of the meditations were very triggering for me. Uh, they were, it’s a lot of mindset work, right? And it was kind of counterproductive to what they teach us now in OCD therapy, especially with exposure therapy.
Um, so back then I didn’t understand why I would always get triggered with the guided meditations. Looking back now, I do. So I wanted to find an alternative way to help myself with my healing journey, and that’s kind of where I came upon Breathwork online, and I started to Going to some of the virtual classes and then I I just really enjoyed it and I decided to become a breathwork facilitator And I feel like that helped me release a lot of emotion somatically Eve or even just move, you know the energy in your body that you have so much energy so many blocks So I think it helped me a lot with that.
Erika: Yeah, and do you find that having? practice breathwork and maybe even let it. Has that helped you with your own boundary setting?
Liz: I, I think so. I think it helped me, um, be more alert. And while I was doing, while I do breathwork classes or when I’m having it done on me.
Erika: Yeah.
Liz: Um, I feel like I’m able to release some resentment or emotions.
So that is definitely needed when you’re trying to set boundaries. So you don’t carry that onto you. your journey on setting healthy boundaries.
Erika: Totally, totally. And I remember whenever we first started working together and you mentioned, uh, boundaries and then also being a breath work facilitator, I was like, this sounds like a great combination because it’s in order to set health, healthy boundaries, you need to be very mindful.
You need to be aware you need to be regulated, which is exactly what breath work does. And I had no idea about what you just mentioned with Uh, how having OC having being diagnosed with OCD makes it very difficult to do guided meditations. I had never heard that before, but as you know, we have the four M’s inside of Courage Driven Latina that we work on.
And one of the ends is movement. The second one is mindfulness and under mindfulness, it’s either meditation or breath work. And those are the options, right? That you get to kind of pick from, but that is such a good point because if somebody is really struggling with meditation. They should try breathwork because it’s more of an active thing, right?
It’s like with, with mindfulness, sometimes your mind can totally be scattered and it’s hard to calm it down. But when breathwork begins to really include your body and you have the breath to focus on, I can see why that would be an easier way of accessing mindfulness.
Liz: Yeah, they’re both tapping into the same thing just in different ways.
And for me, breathwork just helps. So when I do do my breathwork facilitations, I try to be as less triggering as I could coming from a background of knowing what it’s like to be triggered with OCD. So I try to guide people through nature walks and that’s kind of my form of guiding them through that.
And I do
Erika: visualizations. I love that. Yes. As you know, I’m a huge fan of visualization. So, okay, let’s get into how our paths crossed because I’ve known you, I mean, we’re coming up on almost a year. Of working together and you have gone through a lot, like inside of Courage Driven Latina, you have worked on a confidence courage project, a social media courage project, and now you’re working on your business courage project or the CEO path.
So tell us like, how did you even come across the program and what inspired you to want to sign up?
Liz: I want to say I came across it just by coming across your profile on Instagram when I think you were featured in one of the events that was local to me at La Quinta. Um, my mom had worked it and she brought back the workbook and I was just looking into it and I couldn’t believe we had an event.
So close to me, I didn’t know about it. So that’s when I started looking up, you know, the speakers and I want to say you were there and that’s how I stumbled across your profile. And, um, I saw the coaching. The coaching program that you had and it just very much aligned with me at the time. I was looking at other programs too, but yours just really stood out and it was very, um, what is that word?
Very authentic. You, you were just super authentic and I really liked that about you. Um, and I definitely loved the 1 year. Aspect of the program as well.
Erika: Yeah, totally. So a lot of people tell me the authentic thing. So sometimes I’ll get on a call. Like if I do a consult call or something like that, people are like, Oh my gosh, you’re the same person as you are online.
And I’m like, I literally don’t know who else I can be. And I think that that’s hilarious that the authenticity part comes off so much. So tell me, once you joined the program, did it still feel authentic to you? Yes.
Liz: Yes, definitely. I wasn’t expecting to love also the community aspect of it so much. So that was just another bonus to it.
Erika: Yeah, definitely. And when you joined, you were like, I’m going to join because I want to be a boundary coach and you’re, you were very business focused, which obviously there’s a business path inside of Courage Driven Latina. But what happened?
Liz: Yeah. So I was super focused. I said, you know what? I, I already went through my healing era.
I feel like I’m in a great spot, like I’m ready to start. I’ve been, I’ve been meaning to launch my business for maybe four years now. So I was just ready, but then life started to life and um, there were some hiccups. I did lose a very close family member also during that time and it just kind of flipped everything upside down for me, which is why then I.
went on the more confidence path because I felt like I couldn’t start the business until I figured that out for myself.
Erika: Yeah. And I remember, I remember coaching you when this happened and you were, there was a lot of pressure that you were putting on yourself with, I need to heal, but I also need to hurry up and start this business.
And there was just so much pressure on the business when, and I remember the coaching you received was, You just lost a family member that you cared for and, and I, you were traveling, right? So there was just like a lot there. There was so much grief that it was, the coaching was, how can you hold space for the grief?
And now that you’re on the other side of that, How do you feel about the path that you ended up taking, that you did confidence and then worked on the business?
Liz: I think that was the right thing to do. I think I would have, there was something you had told me, um, where you think you said something like, how do you want to start the launch of your business?
Carrying everything, all the load that you have, like you, your clarity. I think you said something about my clarity. It was not going to be the same as if I worked on everything first. So, um, that was something that stood out and I know you, you worded it so differently, but really well. And. That’s when I realized, you know, Erica’s right.
I need to focus on me because how can I basically like birth of business when I’m going through so much right now?
Erika: Yeah, definitely. And you mentioned that you’d wanting to start, you wanted to start your business for about four years. So what, what had you tried that didn’t work or what, what got you stuck every time that you were trying during those four years?
Um,
Liz: I had tried a coaching program. It was super different though. I’m very short. Uh, it was like three months and I didn’t feel like that was enough to get me to where I needed to be. And then once I was just by myself, I had a lot of fear, a lot of fear with imposter syndrome, a lot of fear with The legal aspects being a child of immigrants.
I mean, I am documented, but it’s still, it was still, it’s still very scary.
Erika: Yeah, totally.
Liz: There were so many blocks where I was just scared of so many things. And what, what if it goes wrong? What if there’s so many what ifs? And that’s when I realized that, no, I need a, I need a coach.
Erika: Yeah, and to your point about three months.
So Courage Driven Latina used to be three months and as much as a lot of beautiful Projects came out of it and a lot of community and transformation came out of it I actually just last weekend met one of the girls in person for the first time who was in the fall First ever round. And she was telling me just how much return on investment she still gets from it, from it being three months.
But what I learned was that a lot of people were in your situation where they were like, I want to start this business. And then they came in and what they actually needed first was the life coaching component. And then they were able to take the other paths. And the reason that we layered the paths from confidence to content to business is because those are the building blocks.
Like first you need to believe in yourself. You need the confidence and then you need to start showing up before you need to like show up and sell yourself before then you could sell other people. So to your point of, yeah, you’re, you’re in the first round, I think, of the program being 12 months because you’re coming in towards your,cohort is coming to its end.
and I wasn’t sure I was going to test it out, but your round, has confirmed to me that this was the best decision because life is going to life. And just the fact that you’ve already worked on three different projects, and it hasn’t even been the year yet means that the return on investment you’re getting on this program and the results you’re getting are just so much more than if it was just three months.
Liz: Yeah, I definitely agree and I can’t stress enough how ironic it was that I was super set in my ways. Even when I was considering your program, I said, but I’m not going to need life coaching. I feel like I’m just going to need business coaching. So I just thought it was super ironic and I definitely ate my words up when I think ha most of it or like half of the program, more than half of it was a lot of life coaching for me.
Erika: Yeah. And I remember talking to you about business in the beginning and one of your big kind of reinventions and big transformations that I’ve seen is the your own identity and the way that you’ve seen yourself. There was a lot of hesitancy. I remember at the beginning to call yourself a boundary coach, and now you have a whole Oh, cool.
Book of business full of clients. So tell me a little bit about that transformation from not being comfortable calling yourself a coach to like where it is that you are now.
Liz: So there was a lot of identity work that I had to do. I had a lot of imposter syndrome. Um, I did several self coaching as well as the coaching that you provided.
And I think The pivotal moment also was starting to take on complimentary clients, which basically means they were getting free coaching from me for several weeks. Um, I started off with one friend that signed up and then now I’ve had 10 clients and I think being able to, to coach them. I mean, it’s free coaching and that’s for four to six weeks.
And I just think being able to I’m going to throw myself in it and along with doing so much of the identity work. It has boosted up my confidence so much. Um, I’m I feel like I’m ready. I’m I could call myself a coach. I have introduced myself as a boundary coach several times now, and I don’t second guess it like I used to a year ago.
Erika: Yeah. And what has what have the complimentary clients been able to do for you and your confidence?
Liz: They’ve been able to. Throw different situations at me. Um, there’s, I’ve had clients who they are pretty much set in their ways with boundaries. Like they’re really good at setting boundaries, healthy boundaries too.
Um, they’re probably like super advanced in that. And I was still able to coach them even if they’re on the tail end of their body. boundary journey. Then I have had clients who are in the beginning phase and I’ve been able to help them. So everyone has been in different journeys within boundaries. And I think being able to see an assortment of that has helped me, uh, not only prepare, but I feel I can confidently say that I gave them really good coaching.
Like I am really proud of myself because a year ago, I don’t know if I could have said that, but now I, I feel super confident with helping them no matter if they’re in the beginning phase of their journey or towards the end.
Erika: Yeah, I love that so much. And that’s the beauty about working with multiple people, because then you find evidence of, Oh, I can help people.
But typically what happens, what I saw with you and what I see with so many of my clients is that we’re almost, and even myself, right? This was me at some point in my journey as well, where I was waiting to feel confident to then do the things, but doing the things is what helps you with your confidence.
And by you being able to firsthand see how you’re helping people, it’s almost, it’s amazing. evidence to your brain of like, Oh yeah, we can help people who are advanced in their boundary journey. We can help people who are very new into their boundary journey and people are going to come in at different places, but the fact that you’re able to meet them wherever they are, gives you so much confidence and reassurance that like, this is a service that is needed and that is life changing for people.
Liz: Yeah, I agree. I mean, we have, I’ve had a A few clients that I would consider they’re like boundary queens and I love it. Oh
Erika: my gosh, I love that word boundary queen. I wonder if there’s a way you can like measure, um, when somebody has reached boundary queen status or something like that with like, whenever you have a full, Book a business with your one on one clients.
That would be, you know, there’s like rewards programs and things like that. I feel like that would be a really good reward program. Like, Oh, once you hit boundary Queens and you get access to this free course or something, something for you to think about for the future. You don’t have to do that now, but I think that that would be great.
Liz: I love that. I really love that.
Erika: Yeah, right. Like a bonus, like almost gamifying it and making, uh, kind of like how we’re doing the change 30 right now where everybody encourages driven Latinas participating in the challenge. And at the end, like the winner gets a prize kind of like that. So let me ask you this.
You were encouraged driven Latina before the new curriculum and after the new curriculum. Have you had a chance to look at the new curriculum and done that? And what has that been like for you?
Liz: I, I haven’t, but I just chose the CEO path.
So that’s, I think when I’m going to start looking at the new curriculum.
Erika: So you haven’t even done the new curriculum and you’ve still gotten these damn results. So you’re, you mean to tell me, and this is why I wanted to ask, because here’s the thing, like not to put you on the spot when you’re new to a program.
You start doing the curriculum and you joined when we had the old curriculum. So you probably consume some of that, but the new one, you were already in the program. So like a lot of people who are already in the program don’t usually consume the new one. So you mean to tell me that your results are literally from the coaching calls?
Liz: Yes. Yeah. I love the coaching calls. I think that’s the biggest return on my investment. I know everyone has their own journey for me. I absolutely love the live coaching calls.
Erika: Amazing. Yeah. And then I have people who can’t make the calls live, but they get results just from the curriculum. So it’s just, I am so glad I asked you that because.
I like to see what’s the most valuable piece for people. And that’s kind of what my question was going to go to. Like what tool or aspect of the program is the most valuable to you? And for you, it’s been the life coaching calls, which is the weekly Tuesday calls. And then we also have the business coaching calls, which you also attend those.
You always get coaching in those too.
Liz: Yeah. I really try to take advantage of that because you are a great resource.
Erika: I appreciate it. You’ve already answered this question, but I’m curious if there’s a piece of coaching that has stuck with you, maybe like an aha moment or something that really made you have a pivotal, like a mindset shift or really change.
That’s something that may be stuck with you.
Liz: I really think back and I would still say it was when you told me I needed to work on my identity and heal from my loss before I I continued with the business aspect of it. Um, I was so, I felt so pressured and a lot, most of that pressure was me putting it on myself.
So I. I feel like I needed someone to tell me that and which is why you’re our coach. We need, I needed someone to really like show me that tough love and tell me, you know what you, you might not create your business from a healthy way. If you move forward. without taking time to grieve. Um, that was hard to hear, but it was a very pivotal moment for me where I needed to take a step back, work on my mental health, uh, work on me for several months before I continued with my business.
Erika: Yeah. And you won the failure challenge. Did you win the field? No, you got you got a bonus call. You and I ended up having like a one on one call and I remember because you won something so you and I ended up on a one on one call. Oh, you I think you left left a testimonial right but you and we ended up just having a one on one call because the other people couldn’t make that time and I remember that was I feel like that’s when your shift was happening and this was probably in January.
I want to say that we had the call. And you were really going from the grieving to getting ready to like really start to show up and we were working on like your habits and I remember that call and I remember that that was In my mind, because obviously I spoke to you one on one, it was a pivotal moment for you and it’s just been beautiful to watch you grow in your confidence and just the way that you show up and the other girls see it in the call too.
So tell me a little bit about having that community aspect. Do you like peer coach with anybody? I mean, a lot of your clients have ended up being from the program too, right? So tell me a little bit about that.
Liz: I think that also has been life changing. I wasn’t expecting to love the community aspect so much.
It’s so hard as it is to find friends when you’re in your late twenties, early thirties, and you know, any time after you’re in school, basically, it’s hard to find friends and it’s especially hard to find friends that Are kind of in the same journey as you are, whether if it’s life or a business, let alone Latina friends, right?
So I think I think this container really really brings that out because you’re not only making or networking with people who are on the same path or journey as you, they also get you because most of them are our eldest daughters, actually. I think a lot of us are. So we are able to relate to one another.
Erika: Totally. Yeah. So you said something about, um, it’s hard to make friends. It’s hard to make friends as an adult. It’s hard to make friends as a driven Latina adults. So yeah, to be in a container with people who may be in a different line of work, maybe be working on a different courage project. It’s crazy how much, how many similarities there are in the coaching that’s been given and how when one person’s being coached, it’s almost like you’re like, Oh, I didn’t know I needed to hear that.
And I think that that’s the power of group coaching that you not only get to hear from me and obviously the support coach, but also from all of the other women. And I, I mean, it’s, I always say 20 brains are better than, than one because somebody always has an additional thing to add that I didn’t think about or like, Oh, have you checked out this resource?
Or here’s this. And I find that there’s just so much beauty in, in community. And obviously you attended the in person event as well. So you got to meet some of the people in person as well, which was really nice.
Liz: Yeah, and then, like, just adding to what you said, I think when someone else is getting coaching, even though you’re not exactly in their shoes, there’s so many takeaways with the coaching that they’re receiving that it’s still, you know, I take some of them too, and I’m like, Oh, I didn’t even know I needed to hear that today, but that is so true.
Erika: Yeah, totally. Okay. Let’s go back to boundaries. Um, if somebody is having a hard time setting a boundary with their parents, what is like an exploratory question that you would have for them? So what would you want them to think about if let’s say that I’m like, Oh, I just moved, you know, I moved back into my mom, just to my mom’s house to start this business.
And she’s not really respecting my space and I don’t want to be disrespectful. So what would you say to somebody like that?
Liz: So with like, let’s say this was a client of mine. I do have them journal the first week at the end of the day, reflecting on what opportunities they could have had to set healthy boundaries.
So I do have them journal just so they can start thinking about it. And then usually like the second or third week, we prepare to have a conversation with. Whoever they’re trying to set a healthy boundary with, in this case, it’s with a parent. Um, so I just have them start thinking what boundaries do I want with them?
And how do I want that conversation to go? Because I feel like in the beginning when I was still learning with boundaries, I I would say no right away instead of there’s alternative ways to set healthy boundaries without saying no to someone
Erika: totally. Yeah, it’s and I think sometimes people assume that boundaries are just completely shutting the door, cutting people off, being firm, being mean, but.
What I’ve learned through talking to you and just in my own journey with boundaries, it’s boundaries is actually like a form of self love and of love for others, right? Because you aren’t overextending yourself. If you’re constantly overextending yourself and not setting boundaries, then that’s harmful for the relationship.
It’s harmful for you. You can be resentful. So boundaries are actually a really good boundary. Healthy thing, even though our culture sometimes doesn’t look at it in that way. Right?
Liz: Yeah. And like in this case, let’s say Your mom kept interrupting you while you were doing something. I did have a client go through similar things And one thing that I would notice during our calls was that her door was always open Even as when she was working.
So I told her, what if you start slowly like closing it into a year at a point where you feel comfortable just having your door closed?
Erika: Yeah.
Liz: And maybe just having a conversation with your parent saying, you know what? I am working during these hours. So if you see the door closed, let me know. Just know that it’s not because I don’t want to talk to you, I’m working, and I, sometimes I’m on calls, and I can’t be interrupted.
And really what it is, is just you communicating to that person, like, the why behind a boundary sometimes.
Erika: Yeah, exactly. There’s so many, so much power in boundary setting. And then the beautiful thing is when you start setting boundaries, you also inspire other people to set boundaries and none of us want to overstep in somebody else’s space or not be mindful of what it is that they need.
So by you enforcing boundaries, like now my mom even sets boundaries with me and I’m like, you go girl. Right. And I respect it. I’m very happy with it. So I feel like with the work you’re doing is life changing, not just to your clients, but the people around them too.
Liz: I agree. I also feel like my parents.
They’ve come a long way with my boundaries and sometimes I see like I see the little Intentions that they’re setting when they’re setting like baby boundaries with me or with others So I I do like that because we’re kind of spreading that around you don’t want to just say no or you know ghost people or just cut people off.
Um, again, there’s a little small caveat to that, but, um, we want them to learn how to set healthy boundaries. It’s just a form of healthy communication.
Erika: Exactly. Exactly. So if somebody wanted to work with you with boundary coaching, where can they find you? How can they follow you? Give us the 411 on that.
Liz: Um, so you can find me on Instagram at wellness by Liz, or you can send me an email at hola at wellness by Liz. com.
Erika: Perfect. Okay, well we will link all of that down below in the show notes. Liz, is there anything that I didn’t ask you that you want to share with us? Whether it’s like boundary related or your journey related or maybe your participation in the program.
Anything that we didn’t talk about.
Liz: So, something that I have I’ve also learned these last few months with boundaries is that we’re always evolving and our relationships, our relationships are always evolving as well. So just because you’re setting a firm boundary one day, those can be lowered a few weeks from now or months or years.
Boundaries are always changing, just like life changes. So that is something that I do stress to my clients now, like, just because you’re setting a boundary tomorrow, doesn’t mean it’s always going to be there. You can always change them. You have the power to change them.
Erika: This is so good because this reminds me of when I’m launching and I’m just in a busy period in my business.
I have to set different boundaries with the people around me with like, Hey, I won’t be as responsive. I won’t be as available. I’m probably going to be a little bit higher stress. I’m going to need just a little bit more compassion or even depending on my cycle, right? If I am like the week before my period, I have a little bit less patience.
And just communicating where I am in my cycle, or, you know, I’m in my spring season, so I’m gonna have a little bit more energy now. And I find that that’s really helpful, so what I’m hearing from you is that boundaries aren’t permanent. Correct. They’re like little cones that you put up instead of concrete.
thingies.
Liz: Yeah, we’re not, we’re not putting walls up. We’re just putting little cones. I love that. Wow.
Erika: Okay. I love it. Amazing. Liz, this has been such a good conversation. Is there anything else you want to add or do you feel complete?
Liz: I feel complete. Thank you so much for having me as a guest.
Erika: Yes. Thank you for coming on.
This was such a natural conversation. Again, we’re going to tag your social media and all your info down below. So y’all, if you took anything away from this episode, be sure to screenshot and tag both Liz and myself because we love hearing from you and um, I will see you on our next coaching call is. Yes.
Sounds good. Thank you. Thank you.
Bye.